Gregario and R&D Centre for bicycle of Ludhiana, Punjab, India

Gregario is well known for providing a range of excellent b2b bicycles design services, but not yet for providing courses and workshops too. Isn’t uncommon for us to travel outside Italy to provide such expertise with passion. We were delighted to be selected as international experts by a representative from The United Nations Industrial Development Organisation (UNIDO) to held design a workshop about bicycle design for the Research and Development Centre for Bicycles and Sewing Machines in Ludhiana (RDCBSM), India.

As you know, Gregario is not only Salvatore, but more like an open lab were time by time experts are involved for collaboration. In this case, to provide the widest approach I coupled with an old mate, Paolo Baldissera (Mech. Eng. and PhD) from Politecnico di Torino. Paolo has an extended experience in applied research, he is the Founder and Technical advisor of Team Policumbent, and his love for bike science make him perfect matching with my philosophy.

 

We were asked to create bespoke course about specific topics related to bicycle design and we accepted the challenge. We worked with Unido and the R&D Centre to create a 3 days program allowing the participants to have a complete overview on bicycle design, manufacturing processes and engineering related topics. We found soon a good relation and the effort has been appreciated, so much that in few months we agreed for a second course, where we provided other 3 days, but with more in depth view about Finite Element Analysis of bicycles components in a hands-on training.

 

 

 

 

The participants at the two workshops were Managers and Engineers from R&D and from all India Bicycle Industries. We travelled on purpose to Ludhiana, Punjab where the centre have his location.

As for our philosophy, we made sure that all of the request was carefully centered around the main task of learning how to design a bicycle and its components. The participants were so interested that covered us with lot of additional requests, so we tried as possible to re-arrange the schedule and provide more knowledge where they were more interested. Now back to their job, we are sure they are bring their newly acquired knowledge and skill set with them.

 

 

 

It was the first time we met India, its culture, and its bicycle industry. At the end, we can say we learnt a lot too and had very pleasant time. We meet an industry in development, its actors, the cycles (AICMA) and components (UCPMA) associations, some of their entrepreneurs and managers, and the guys that works in development area first. Ludhiana, is currenlty the “bike-valley” of India and after a first look at their programs, we can say they are on the right way to become a future player on the market, thanks to the help of UNIDO and Indian Government.

The story doesn’t end here though. Gregario is working to find solutions and provide support to them. We really enjoy meeting and working with the R&D team for Bicycles and Sewing Machines and Industries and we can’t wait to work with them further in the future. Huge thanks to UNIDO and his representatives that helped to make this project a really positive opportunity for all involved.

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Blog | 21 October 2024

Digital Sizing by Gregario

Defining the optimal dimensions of a frame it’s always a fascinating challenge. Even more so is calculating the optimal measurements of the entire bicycle, that is, that set of geometries that lead to a total harmony of ergonomics and handling, from the saddle point to the hoods (hand points) and to the pedal (shoe points).

Traditionally, designing custom bicycles requires the physical presence of the cyclist at the manufacturer’s headquarters or the retailer, which can be limiting and can make the tailor-made accessible to a very small subgroup of amateurs, not only for economic reasons but also for logistics and time.
The world of bike fitting has developed over the years a series of “recipes”, empirical methods refined and handed down over the years, evolved as new equipment has entered the bike fitter’s study, but often oriented towards the ultimate goal of adapting the athlete to an existing frame. Usually, replacements and/or micro-adjustments of the saddle, stem and handlebars are proposed to improve the posture, rarely achieving perfection only when the starting point already falls within the ideal values… it is certainly not possible to compensate starting from a frame with inadequate measurements.

Here’s why sizing of the frame is important, whether it’s identifying the most suitable standard size or, better yet, starting from a blank sheet of paper and setting up the project for a new tailor-made special.

But what is Gregario’s proposal on this subject? Well, it all depends on your starting point…

Case A) Do you already have clear ideas?

Chances are you already have a trusted bike fitter or a dealer equipped and capable of defining your ideal contact points… or let’s say you have an old bike that fits you like a glove and you want to replicate that exact positioning on a modern monocoque but does not match with standard sizes… or let’s finally suppose that you already have your ideal measurements in your head because your great-great-grandmother told them to you in a dream. Well in all these cases no sizing method is necessary, you’ll just have to communicate us these essential data clearly, i.e. those reported in the following table in reference to the diagrams below:

Xs Horizontal distance from BB center to saddle contact point
(approximately where the saddle is wide 70 mm)
Zs Vertical distance from BB center to saddle contact point (see above)
Xc Horizontal distance from BB center to hand contact point
(hoods, approximately at the point of support in the palm at the base of the thumb)
Zc Vertical distance from BB center to hand contact point (see above)
W Handlebar width (measured at the center of the controls)

If necessary, also provide information on the driving style you prefer, so we will take this into account during the design phase to set the length of the stem. Our cockpit also provides the possibility of adjustment of the stem angle, but the basic reference is with horizontal stem (parallel to the ground) and any variations in the angle are intended for micro-adjustments (e.g. seasonal) as well as the saddle adjustments: up to ± 3 cm in height and the classic forward/backward depending on the chosen saddle model. These are the reference schemes for the measures to be provided if you already have all the tools to define them independently.

Blog | 29 March 2024

Handmade

At Gregario, we have always cultivated esteem and respect for the artisanal frame-building tradition of our beautiful country, which is dedicated to a niche of timeless “classic” products, primarily made from steel, but also incorporating wrapped carbon and other techniques specific to small workshops.

So long live frame builders and anyone dedicated to preservation and pass on a noble and fascinating ars technica !

That said, we recently came across some social media posts from several respected bicycle craftspeople who, while rightly praising the (undoubted) qualities of their frames, contrast their “handmade” products with “moulded” monocoque carbon frames. On the face of it, this seems like a legitimate claim, but this narrative leads to significant misinformation about HOW such “moulded” frames are actually produced… namely, with manual work that is decidedly more demanding and onerous than any technique for joining eight tubes.

Yes, because we are not talking about printing cookies, but rather about carefully arranging over 200 fabric shapes (pre-impregnated carbon) inside a mould. These pieces range from 40 cm strips to tiny stamps, all positioned by hand according to a precise plan (the ply-book) with meticulous overlaps, folds to manage and fibre orientations to respect. And this is only half the work, because then, depending on the resin curing technology used, there are a further series of steps involved, always rigorously by hand.

In the case of autoclaves (the most common technique in Europe), it is necessary to carefully position the internal bags, close the two half-moulds without pinching anything, arrange a series of auxiliary materials, close the external bag, apply the putty to connect the internal bags with the external and so on until the whole thing is cured under high pressure and temperature. Furthermore, once the curing is finished, it’s back to manual work for mould opening, part extraction, and finishing. All this with a series of possible variations we won’t go into now.

In short, there is nothing more “handmade” than a carbon monocoque frame.

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